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TELECOM Digest     Mon, 24 Apr 95 19:49:00 CDT    Volume 15 : Issue 208

Inside This Issue:                           Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    Annoying Calls: Can We Deal With Them? (Randall Rathbun)
    Book Review: "NetPages" by Aldea Communications (Rob Slade)
    Need Help on 50-POTS-Line Setup (Trevor Fiatal)
    Indian Minister Calls For Computers in Rural Schools (Rishab Aiyer
Ghosh)
    International Rates to Russia (Van Hefner)
    Mexico: Buying Modems and Muxes ([e-mail])
    EIA-232 Specifications - Where Can They be Located? (Chad Ira
Hanneman)
    CIUG Conference (Bob Larribeau)
    Telecomics (Dave Leibold)

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"Would you like to work at home? Would you like to be freed from the
drudgery of a company? Would you like to pick your own hours? etc,
etc."

This computer auto-dialed voice response advertisement hit our block
of 1200 numbers in a CA office prefix and started up the chain of
numbers. We have almost 3 dozen DID trunks selectable as a distribution
group. Dial our range of numbers, and it comes in on any of our
trunks. Continually hitting the attendant operator, the situation soon
became very irritating. Our engineers and management were also
receiving this barrage of automated enticements, and frankly it was
disruptive to our business. We are a large defense manufacturer and
don't have the time or inclination to be disturbed by this type of
thing.

What came as a surprise totally to us, was the response of our local
telco when asked to remedy the situation. Here's what we're told
(quoted) "We don't have a way to stop this ... we don't have a way of
trapping ... you have to have a trap in place ... you have to have your
security give us a signed statement ... you have to have a case number
assigned to you from the county sheriff's department."

In other words, it is just about impossible to even deal with this
type of annoying or harassment call due to the complicated, extended
and time-consuming legal procedures. The local telco representative
added "We've had this thing happen to us, hopefully yours' will stop
today" and they acknowledged that a carefully placed roving call would
go through virtually impossible to stop.  They said they had to have
two matches on the same number before they could initiate law
enforcement activity in their offensive call bureau.

A simple question comes to mind, don't roving calls only hit the
number once and then move on?

In other words, knowledgeable offensive callers can dial with almost
complete impunity and automated dialers are "impossible" to stop.

What particularly irks this writer, with extensive knowledge and
experience of telecommunications, is that he and a local CO technician
can trace and lock down these type of calls within 10-15 seconds after
they come in. The local CO technician can even remotely login to other
telco sites and trace the call and positively identify its source
within a minute or at the most two. In other words, it IS possible to
stop these types of calls.

Why can't we do something about this growing problem? Have the telco
carriers formulated new procedures to handle this growing problem? All
the hardware is already in place to deal with this situation. With the
advent of the computer autdialers and increasing mechanization during
the 90's, this type of thing will only increase. Certainly abuse will
only increase once people realize that nothing really will ever be
done.

Can't we stop this type of thing, rather than throw up our hands and
say "oh well, there's nothing we can do about it"? Your comment is
appreciated.

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BKNETPAG.RVW   950313

"NetPages", Susan Estrada, 1994, U$5.95
%A   Susan Estrada [e-mail]
%C   2380 Camino Vida Roble, Carlsbad, CA   92009
%D   1994
%I   Aldea Communications, Inc.
%O   U$5.95 [phone] fax: [phone] [e-mail]
%P   214
%T   "NetPages"

Godin and McBride did the "1994 Internet White Pages" (cf.
BKINTWHP.RVW) and haven't yet attempted an update.  Hahn and Stout
claim the "original" (cf.  BKINTYLP.RVW), and New Riders the
"official" (cf. BKNRYLPG.RVW), "Yellow Pages", both of which are in
their second editions.  Now, Aldea has produced blue, white and yellow
NetPages in one volume.

It is my understanding that NetPages is intended to be supplied like
the phone book, with both hardcopy and online versions being provided
free of charge and the project to be funded by the sale of
advertising.  (My copy, labelled "Spring 1995", was also marked
"$5.95".)  I assume this is the first edition: for a network
directory, it is very slim.

The blue pages are a remarkably cogent and concise "at a glance" guide
to the Internet.  Email components, mailing lists, codes of conduct,
good references, and business on the Internet are covered quickly, but
with all the major points covered.  (The bibliography is terrible, but
you can't have everything.)

The white pages have first business, and then individual, listings.
This is very handy in terms of finding people, but an additional page
colour might be of benefit here, to distinguish the two sections.  The
listing system is automated; you send email to [e-mail], so
there are frequent errors.  (Send email to [e-mail] to get
details of the submission format.)

In this version, there are fewer than 160 companies listed in the
yellow pages.

The information in the book states that it will be published twice
annually.  For information on availability, send email to
[e-mail].

copyright Robert M. Slade, 1995   BKNETPAG.RVW   950313. Distribution
permitted in TELECOM Digest and associated publications. Rob Slade's
book reviews are a regular feature in the Digest.


Vancouver        [e-mail]         | "If a train station
Institute for    [e-mail]      |  is where a train
Research into    [e-mail]     |  stops, what happens
User             [e-mail] |  at a workstation?"
Security         Canada V7K 2G6           | Frederick Wheeler

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Hi, telecom netizens.

I'm in the midst of coordinating an ISP startup, and I've run into
a seemingly-simple problem which has me stumped.  Please help me!

We had Centel (Sprint's wholly-owned NC telco subsidiary) bring 200
pairs from their CO to our office.  We currently have 50 pairs
hooked up, and this is where my ignorance begins.

Rather than a simple block of RJ-11s, I have two 50-pair blocks of
punch-down posts, one labeled "Xmit" and the other labeled "Recv".
The blocks appear to be bridged together; I can't tell for sure.
Which block should I wire my inside lines to?  I'm not certain it
would make a difference, but I'd like to get it right the first time.

I would also appreciate any tips on how to keep things simple, in
terms of what number of conductors to use in any given cable, and
good sources for RJ patch panels and the like.

Email replies are fine; UNCC is graciously allowing me to use my
(former) staff account as an access point until we get rolling.


Thanks,

Trevor [e-mail][e-mail]
Alphanet South -- High Speed Internet Access for the Pinehurst, NC area.
  USR V.34 Courier modems on every line -- ISDN coming soon!
Pinehurst POP projected to open May 1, 1995 -- Call [phone] for
info

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Indian Minister calls for computers in rural schools

Mr Madhavrao Scindia, India's Human Resources Development Minister who
is responsible for education, outlined a range of improvements to the
government-run Kendriya Vidyalaya schools across the country,
including extensive computerisation.

At a meeting with the board of governors of the schools, which are
among the better run of the cash-starved public schools that cater
mainly to the poor or rural population, the Ministry proposed that
schools be connected through electronic networks to the facilities of
the prestigious Indian Institutes of Technology (IITs) and Management
(IIMs). The Ministry also proposed replacing obselete BBC micros with
newer PCs in several hundred schools.

In order to make schoolgoing "a happy experience," it has been decided
that children up to the second grade will not be given any homework,
and all grades will incorporate more "activity-based learning," and
"more freedom," with teachers acting only "as guides."

An independent initiative from the Department of Electronics,
involving the use of discretionary funds controlled by members of
Parliament for public spending in their constituencies, aims to
provide computers to schools at the district level and connect them
through Very Small Aperture Terminal (VSAT) satellite links to ERNET,
India's patch of the Internet, forming an "information footpath." This
initiative was inaugurated earlier this year; in addition there are
already some privately-run schools for the underprivileged that use
Internet e-mail for innovative educational programmes.


Rishab Aiyer Ghosh     [e-mail]
[e-mail]    Vox [phone] Voxmail 3760335
H 34C Saket, New Delhi 110017, INDIA

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For those of you who make frequent international calls from the U.S.
to Russia, I have compiled a factsheet listing rates to that country
on programs from AT&T, MCI, Sprint, Cyberlink, and Telegroup. I used
the best calling programs available from each company on both their
commercial and residential programs.

The report includes rates from programs such as Sprint Sense
International, The Most For Business International, MCI Preferred
Worldwide, MCI Friends & Family Around the World, AT&T Global Business
Advantage, AT&T True World Savings, Cyberlink International Plus, and
Telegroup Global Access USA.

An explanation of all available discounts is listed for each program,
as well as their base per-minute rates and peak/off-peak time periods
(different with each company). Some of these rates are limited-time
offers that expire within a few weeks.

Also included is a comparison of charges for a typical 3 1/2 minute
call using each of the programs (both with AND without all applicable
discounts, peak and off-peak). Specific information on billing
increments,
service charges, monthly minimums, and required domestic services is
given. Other info on fraud, six-second billing, differences between
programs, access methods and a summary/reccomendation for each carrier
is included as well.

The file 'russia.txt' can be downloaded from my archive site via
anonymous FTP at ftp.northcoast.com in the /pub/vantek/reports
directory. All current and back issues of our newsletter Discount Long
Distance Digest can also be downloaded from the same site in the
/pub/vantek directory.



Van Hefner     Publisher
Discount Long Distance Digest
[e-mail]

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           4 0 7 - A   F c o .   V i l l a r re a l
             C o l o n i a   B u e n a   V i s t a
   M a t a m o r o s ,   T a m a u l i p a s ,   Me x i c o

              Telephone:    [phone]
                    Fax:    [phone]
                 E-mail:    [e-mail]

                            B U Y I N G

            NEW, USED, OR REFURBISHED

We are "BUYING" the follwing items for customers in Mexico:

Modems & Multiplexors in ANY of the following Brand Names:

UDS 9648T & 9645's
NET (NETWORK EQUIP. TECH)
TIMEPLEX
DATATEL
TELEBIT
CODEX
UDS
MULTITECH
MICOM
AT&T PARADYNE
HAYES
GDC
NEC
MICROCOM
RACAL MILGO /  RACAL VADIC
CODEX
AT&T 2048 T'S

MISC.

Cisco Bridges & Routers (T-1)
VERILINK (T-1, CSU/DSU)

PRINTERS:

OKIDATA  (MICRO LINE FAMILY-300 SERIES)
EPSON (ANY)

Pleases respond by phone, fax, or E-mail to Grady Young:

With the Model #'s and Quantities you have available.

Note:  All transactions including receipt will be in U.S.; and , in U.S.
currency.

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I am looking for the EIA(RS)-232 specification.  Would anyone know
where I could find it?  Any information via E-Mail would be greatly
appreciated.  I'm also looking for the 422, 423, 449, and 530 specs as
well.

Thanks in advance!

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·




The California ISDN Users' Group Conference DESIGNING AND IMPLEMENTING
ISDN APPLICATIONS

May 31 and June 1 LAX Marriott


For more information and a registration form see below our take a look
at http://www.ciug.org/ciug/ciugmeet.html

or send more information to "[e-mail]"

Bob Larribeau

                    -------------------

REGISTRATION
Please fill out this form and mail with payment to:

CALIFORNIA ISDN USERSÆ GROUP
P.O. BOX 27901-318
SAN FRANCISCO, CA 94127

or, for credit card orders, phone or fax us:

[phone] Phone
[phone] Fax

Payment:
__ $100 Full Conference (includes membership fee)
__ $75 Full Conference (for members only)
___+ $25 Exhibits Only (includes membership fee; exhibits-only FREE
            for CIUG members

Name____________________________________________________________________

Company, Job Title ___________________________________________________

Address, Mail Stop ___________________________________________________

City, State, Zip _____________________________________________________

Telephone, Fax, email ________________________________________________

    _ Visa   __ Mastercard   __ American Express

Credit Card Number. Expiration Date
_____________________________________

Name, Signature _____________________________________________________
HOTEL INFORMATION
Los Angeles Airport Marriott
5855 W. Century Blvd.
Los Angeles, CA 90045
[phone]

Call the hotel to make your reservations. The Marriott will hold a
block of rooms until May 17. at a special rate of $85 per night -
single double. Be sure to mention the California ISDN Users' Group
when you make your reservation.

The LAX Marriott is located conveniently by the Los Angeles Airport.
The hotel provides transportation from the airport.


EXHIBITS

We will have exhibits and demonstrations by 40 ISDN companies on both
days with a reception Wednesday evening from 5:00 to 7:00 PM.


PROGRAM

Registration Open* Wednesday 9:30 AM
The Registration Desk will open at 9:30.


Issues and Tutorials * Wednesday 10:00 - 12:00
Several informal meetings and tutorials will be held, including:

New Members Orientation - S. Kluz, Chairman (10:00 - 11:00)
ISDN Issues - S. Kluz, Chairman - (11:00 - 12:00)
ISDN Tutorial - R. Brennan, AT&T (11:00 - 12:00)
PPP MP Interoperability Workshop - R. Larribeau (10:00 - 12:00)


Plenary * Wednesday 1:00 - 2:30
Stan Kluz - Chairman, LLNL
Welcome and discussion of CIUG activities.
Keynote - Pat Krause, McDonald's
A discussion by an ISDN pioneer based on his experience of what it takes
to be
successful in designing and implementing ISDN applications.
Bob Larribeau - Program Chair
Conference Program

Wednesday 3:00 - 5:00

Understanding and Selecting ISDN Services
Leading phone companies that offer ISDN services will discuss the
important
considerations in selecting and using the various ISDN service options.
Jack Stewart - MacNeal-Schwendler will give the user's view
J. B. Hannis - GTE
Mike Sapien - Pacific Bell
Dei Hardiman - AT&T
Pete Hansen - Sprint

Thursday 8:30 to 10:00

ISDN Video Applications

Two videoconferencing users will discuss the extensive networks that
they have setup along with a presentation by Pacific Bell on how to
select and use network based videoconferencing services.

Ari Ollikainen - LLNL
Jack Fine - Pacific Bell
Denise Showalter - Pacific Bell

ISDN Voice Applications

Users who have implemented large ISDN Centrex applications will
discuss their experiences and the benefits they have received.

Rich Brennan - AT&T
Brian Aumiller - McDonald's
Alex Kelley - El Camino College
Sheryl Kimball - El Camino College

Thursday 10:30 to Noon

ISDN Packet & Satellite Applications

Discussions about how ISDN can be used with X.25 packet switching
networks or in satellite networks to support

Chris Brock - Pacific Bell
Byron Wagner - Genius, Inc.
Frank Piepiorra - Data TeleMark

ISDN Data Networking Applications

Three users will discuss their experiences in setting up network
connections and network access using ISDN.

Steve Wheeler - Graphics Plus
Bruce Bartolf - Gensler & Assoc.
Rick Valasek - Velasek Assoc.


Thursday 2:30 to 3:00

ISDN and Netware

A panel led by a user that will discuss how to solve the issues that
come up in using Netware over ISDN. Includes a discussion of IPX
spoofing changes in Netware that facilitate using ISDN.

Doug Kaye - Rational Data Systems
Joe Gervais - Novell
Ham Mathews - Digiboard

ISDN Data Equipment

Meet the man behind the best ISDN Web site on the Internet. Hear about
the kind of equipment that is available on how it performs. Presentation
on the PPP MP Interoperability recently held by the CIUG.

Dan Kegel - Knowledge Adventure
Bob Larribeau - Larribeau Assoc.
Bob Downs - Sonic Systems

Thursday 3:30 to 5:00

ISDN Work-at-Home Applications

Discussion by three users who have implemented programs that allow
their employees to work at home.

Natalie Clinton - LLNL
Dirk Hartogs - Canon Research
Chip Parham - Chevron

ISDN and the Internet

Will cover how and why you should use ISDN to dialup into the Internet.

Charles Como - Underground Network
Mike Friedman - Yasco
Tom Ryan - Scitech

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Another sampling of those newspaper funnies featuring fones ... in not
too particular an order ...

# Sherman's Lagoon, 30 Mar 95:

Fillmore: "What's Fidel Castro doing on your autodial?"
Sherman: "Fidel and I go way back."
Fillmore: "Madonna? Mother Teresa? I think you made these up to
          impress people..."
(and on it goes until it is discovered The Three Tenors didn't live
together ... now direct-dial to Cuba is in America now, isn't it? ...
meanwhile this comic has an e-mail: [e-mail])

# Dave, date unknown, but in 1995:

Featuring the not-so-exciting TV series spun from Rescue 911,
"Information 411"

# Shoe, 25 Oct 94:

Cosmo phones a female, gets her answering machine, and the message
"... if this is you again, Cosmo, hang up at the beep."

# Shoe, 24 Mar 95:

Economy voice mail comes to Shoe's paper... where they "don't get
same-day delivery"

# Animal Crackers, sometime in '95:

Lyle's continuing attempts to communicate with Lana ... this time it
ends with her answering machine hanging up on his voice.

# Animal Crackers, 27 Jan 95"

Lyle vs Lana 2... a no-answer this time... playing hard to get, and
in the words of a bystander, "she's winning"

# Mixed Media, 4 Apr 95:

Dating in the 70's... by phone number
Dating in the 90's... by e-mail address

# Mixed Media, 1 Mar 95:

Alexander Graham Bell is shown, doing his famous summoning of
Watson... but "the party at this extension is not available at this
time..." ... imagine as Bell had to invent his device with those
voice mail/PBX options.

# Mixed Media, 20 Apr 95:

Mailbox yells at someone to write his mother... "now that's voice
mail..."

# Mixed Media, 28 Feb 95:

The results of cell phoning while race car driving are not nice ...

# Mother Goose and Grimm, 31 Jan 95:

Mother Goose wants to complain to the postmaster about rising postage
rates and slow service ... so the postmaster uses the "fastest and most
economical way"... fax

# Sylvia, 1 Feb 95:

Person on hold waiting for an operator ... "perhaps until your hair
turns gray or your eyes bulge out."


Fidonet : Dave Leibold 1:250/730
Internet: [e-mail]

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End of TELECOM Digest V15 #208
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[e-mail] (Tyron Edgerly) wrote:

>Hello,
> The new WIN32S is out (v2.0).  The new netscape will not run with any
earlier
>version present, and I have 32-bit applications I need to run.  Anyone
know
>where I can get a copy of the new WIN32S?
>P.S. The new netscape is at ftp.mcom.com

try
http://bongo.cc.utexas.edu/~neuroses/cwsapps.html






[e-mail] (Tyron Edgerly) wrote:

>Hello,
> The new WIN32S is out (v2.0).  The new netscape will not run with any
earlier
>version present, and I have 32-bit applications I need to run.  Anyone
know
>where I can get a copy of the new WIN32S?
>P.S. The new netscape is at ftp.mcom.com

try
http://bongo.cc.utexas.edu/~neuroses/cwsapps.html